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	<title>Comments on: Contemporary Art &#8211; Jenny Holzer Discussion Question</title>
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		<title>By: kristinbraden</title>
		<link>http://barryjones.edublogs.org/2008/04/01/contemporary-art-jenny-holzer-discussion-question/comment-page-1/#comment-31</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 03:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since Holzer work is based on text and getting a written message out to the viewer, I think it would be a little silly to write her name on that as well.  Readers would include her name along with the message and the message would probably lose it&#039;s meaning.  Holzer was only interested in having people read and understand a message and not attach it to someone in particular.  Her work includes everyone and it could be anyone&#039;s thought or message and not contributed to one person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since Holzer work is based on text and getting a written message out to the viewer, I think it would be a little silly to write her name on that as well.  Readers would include her name along with the message and the message would probably lose it&#8217;s meaning.  Holzer was only interested in having people read and understand a message and not attach it to someone in particular.  Her work includes everyone and it could be anyone&#8217;s thought or message and not contributed to one person.</p>
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		<title>By: barryjones</title>
		<link>http://barryjones.edublogs.org/2008/04/01/contemporary-art-jenny-holzer-discussion-question/comment-page-1/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>barryjones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 15:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jamie

Holzer says, “I like to be absolutely out of view and out of earshot.  I don’t sign my work because I think that would diminish its effectiveness.”Discuss Holzer’s statement.How does Holzer’s appropriation of text and collaboration with writers serve this objective? 


I think Holzer has a point that her work is more effective when people don&#039;t know who wrote it. It almost makes it seem like this undisputable truth. It reminds me of all the famous quotes that no one remembers who wrote them and they all just say &#039;anonymous.&#039; Her use of other people&#039;s text takes her hand even more out of the work. She isn&#039;t making these statements, she&#039;s just choosing that you need to see them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamie</p>
<p>Holzer says, “I like to be absolutely out of view and out of earshot.  I don’t sign my work because I think that would diminish its effectiveness.”Discuss Holzer’s statement.How does Holzer’s appropriation of text and collaboration with writers serve this objective? </p>
<p>I think Holzer has a point that her work is more effective when people don&#8217;t know who wrote it. It almost makes it seem like this undisputable truth. It reminds me of all the famous quotes that no one remembers who wrote them and they all just say &#8216;anonymous.&#8217; Her use of other people&#8217;s text takes her hand even more out of the work. She isn&#8217;t making these statements, she&#8217;s just choosing that you need to see them.</p>
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		<title>By: barryjones</title>
		<link>http://barryjones.edublogs.org/2008/04/01/contemporary-art-jenny-holzer-discussion-question/comment-page-1/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>barryjones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 15:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jessica

By not signing her work Holzer is allowing her pieces to be free of any bias that she could project onto the viewer. If she was to sign her pieces it would cause the viewer to become preoccupied by who Holzer is rather that what her work is trying to convey. Also by not using any text that she writes herself she further distances herself from her work. This allows the viewer to be subjective about the piece and take into account their own life experiences and bias when analyzing her work.This allows the work can take on different meanings for different people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jessica</p>
<p>By not signing her work Holzer is allowing her pieces to be free of any bias that she could project onto the viewer. If she was to sign her pieces it would cause the viewer to become preoccupied by who Holzer is rather that what her work is trying to convey. Also by not using any text that she writes herself she further distances herself from her work. This allows the viewer to be subjective about the piece and take into account their own life experiences and bias when analyzing her work.This allows the work can take on different meanings for different people.</p>
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		<title>By: barryjones</title>
		<link>http://barryjones.edublogs.org/2008/04/01/contemporary-art-jenny-holzer-discussion-question/comment-page-1/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>barryjones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 03:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jennifer

The whole point of Holzer artwork is to get the viewers to think and reflect about the meaning of the words that she is presenting. Holzer removes her image from the equation so that her name does not interefere with this objective. Most of the time Holzer does not even use her own words. Instead, she pulls certain content from the literary work of others that she thinks is important for people to see. I believe that Holzer&#039;s sense of accomplishment comes from presenting these meaningful selections in a new light so that people view them from a different perspective. The viewers of Holzer&#039;s work she be thinking &quot;Why was this done?&quot; not &quot;Who did this?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jennifer</p>
<p>The whole point of Holzer artwork is to get the viewers to think and reflect about the meaning of the words that she is presenting. Holzer removes her image from the equation so that her name does not interefere with this objective. Most of the time Holzer does not even use her own words. Instead, she pulls certain content from the literary work of others that she thinks is important for people to see. I believe that Holzer&#8217;s sense of accomplishment comes from presenting these meaningful selections in a new light so that people view them from a different perspective. The viewers of Holzer&#8217;s work she be thinking &#8220;Why was this done?&#8221; not &#8220;Who did this?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: barryjones</title>
		<link>http://barryjones.edublogs.org/2008/04/01/contemporary-art-jenny-holzer-discussion-question/comment-page-1/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>barryjones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris

i think that as a society, we really value a work more for who did it rather than what it is about.&quot;oh its a Picasso, its the greatest thing ever painted...&quot; type of thing. i think Holzer really wants the focus of her work to be the text and what it is the text is trying to get across. its almost as if she wants to be completely seperated from the work all together and allow the words to do their job....its as if she acts as a facilitator to the words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris</p>
<p>i think that as a society, we really value a work more for who did it rather than what it is about.&#8221;oh its a Picasso, its the greatest thing ever painted&#8230;&#8221; type of thing. i think Holzer really wants the focus of her work to be the text and what it is the text is trying to get across. its almost as if she wants to be completely seperated from the work all together and allow the words to do their job&#8230;.its as if she acts as a facilitator to the words.</p>
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		<title>By: rayvencollins</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By not having the artist involved in the piece by signing it or standing beside it, it adds a more natural feel to it. Natural probably isn&#039;t the best word but, it&#039;s the only way I can think of to describe it. The way she displays her text is unique and becomes a part of the city or wherever she&#039;s displaying it. It becomes part of the landscape and the words are like thought bubbles in flashing lights. By not signing it, she&#039;s not personalizing it which feeds better with the public. Her words could be your words, you thoughts, and your feelings. By doing it this way, the viewer is able to connect with it on their own personal level and this feeds to her purpose, the purpose to change (instrumentalism). Also, the words aren&#039;t all her own and by signing it, it could suggest that she wrote it and that could get into legal issues. So, there&#039;s two major reasons, 1) to effectively convey the message and 2) legal issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By not having the artist involved in the piece by signing it or standing beside it, it adds a more natural feel to it. Natural probably isn&#8217;t the best word but, it&#8217;s the only way I can think of to describe it. The way she displays her text is unique and becomes a part of the city or wherever she&#8217;s displaying it. It becomes part of the landscape and the words are like thought bubbles in flashing lights. By not signing it, she&#8217;s not personalizing it which feeds better with the public. Her words could be your words, you thoughts, and your feelings. By doing it this way, the viewer is able to connect with it on their own personal level and this feeds to her purpose, the purpose to change (instrumentalism). Also, the words aren&#8217;t all her own and by signing it, it could suggest that she wrote it and that could get into legal issues. So, there&#8217;s two major reasons, 1) to effectively convey the message and 2) legal issues.</p>
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		<title>By: lkio14</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems as though I am just simply agreeing with the other comments, but I feel the same. When we study art, alot of time we refer back to the artist... We often take into consideration who we think they are and their views, they very much become part of their art. The great thing about Holzer is she is trying to speak as more than just ...herself... Even if you know that the work is hers, (which she trys to make it as anonymous as possible) you are still not sure where the words actually came from. She represents the voices of many. I believe that text is very much a form of art, art makes a statement much like words... And it is not abnormal for artists to bring text into their art. She tries to pull feelings out of inside the viewers... As if anyone where saying what she is saying, it could even be ourselfs, it evokes memories, and feelings inside ourselfs that are often covered up or unspoken. She is very clean cut about her work... It is to the point, clear, and uncluttered with anything that would take our mind off anything but what is right in front of our face and what it brings forth in our minds... If she finds a need to make her art show any emotion at all she finds very subtle (sp?) ways... For example, to show the elegance or sensitivity, she plays up how the letters fall on surrounding objects (like the glass), to show the very &quot;in your face&quot;, &quot;reality&quot; and almost a sad feeling, I saw how she used paper, some sections blacked out, leaving the message in between. As if a document, as if historical... It reminded me of some kind of forms for government, military or some kind of job, or something just...serious. So, in some of her work she finds little ways to display some emotion, but mainly it is percise, it is clear, free of clutter, free of any ties, and any feelings or emotions or ties comes from the viewers mind...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems as though I am just simply agreeing with the other comments, but I feel the same. When we study art, alot of time we refer back to the artist&#8230; We often take into consideration who we think they are and their views, they very much become part of their art. The great thing about Holzer is she is trying to speak as more than just &#8230;herself&#8230; Even if you know that the work is hers, (which she trys to make it as anonymous as possible) you are still not sure where the words actually came from. She represents the voices of many. I believe that text is very much a form of art, art makes a statement much like words&#8230; And it is not abnormal for artists to bring text into their art. She tries to pull feelings out of inside the viewers&#8230; As if anyone where saying what she is saying, it could even be ourselfs, it evokes memories, and feelings inside ourselfs that are often covered up or unspoken. She is very clean cut about her work&#8230; It is to the point, clear, and uncluttered with anything that would take our mind off anything but what is right in front of our face and what it brings forth in our minds&#8230; If she finds a need to make her art show any emotion at all she finds very subtle (sp?) ways&#8230; For example, to show the elegance or sensitivity, she plays up how the letters fall on surrounding objects (like the glass), to show the very &#8220;in your face&#8221;, &#8220;reality&#8221; and almost a sad feeling, I saw how she used paper, some sections blacked out, leaving the message in between. As if a document, as if historical&#8230; It reminded me of some kind of forms for government, military or some kind of job, or something just&#8230;serious. So, in some of her work she finds little ways to display some emotion, but mainly it is percise, it is clear, free of clutter, free of any ties, and any feelings or emotions or ties comes from the viewers mind&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: barryjones</title>
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		<dc:creator>barryjones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 03:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas

Words have great mean on thier own just look in a dictanary. Every word has meaning and each word is used for a reason. Words are something everyone can understand because each word has its own meaning and use in a sentence.
If holzer was to put her name on her work her name would them become to work. This is because her works are on the written form so her name on her art would be included in the art. With holzer name not on her work it makes the words stand out more and more meaningfull because the statements being made without a name on it make people who look upon feel like they themselves are stating it.

yes it does serve the objective because the art reflects the meaning of the words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas</p>
<p>Words have great mean on thier own just look in a dictanary. Every word has meaning and each word is used for a reason. Words are something everyone can understand because each word has its own meaning and use in a sentence.<br />
If holzer was to put her name on her work her name would them become to work. This is because her works are on the written form so her name on her art would be included in the art. With holzer name not on her work it makes the words stand out more and more meaningfull because the statements being made without a name on it make people who look upon feel like they themselves are stating it.</p>
<p>yes it does serve the objective because the art reflects the meaning of the words.</p>
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		<title>By: barryjones</title>
		<link>http://barryjones.edublogs.org/2008/04/01/contemporary-art-jenny-holzer-discussion-question/comment-page-1/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>barryjones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 03:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shiera

Holzer wants the viewer to have a completely unbiased experience while taking in her work and thinking about it. We tend to place value on artworks just by knowing who it is. By signing the piece, I believe she thinks that will be taken in to the overall experience. Plus, she already works with text as it is. Her signature might be mistaken for part of the art work and distract you from what it is she is trying to say, and if she doesn’t use text to sign her name but instead a symbol, it would distract from the point of using text all together.

Not to mention it seems she wants herself to be as distant from the piece as possible in that there are no traces of her personally in it, but instead the style of the piece is what makes you think of her. Holzer doesn’t even use her own words in making these projects. She uses the words of other writers, who themselves create pieces by using words. She has blurred the line between art and writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shiera</p>
<p>Holzer wants the viewer to have a completely unbiased experience while taking in her work and thinking about it. We tend to place value on artworks just by knowing who it is. By signing the piece, I believe she thinks that will be taken in to the overall experience. Plus, she already works with text as it is. Her signature might be mistaken for part of the art work and distract you from what it is she is trying to say, and if she doesn’t use text to sign her name but instead a symbol, it would distract from the point of using text all together.</p>
<p>Not to mention it seems she wants herself to be as distant from the piece as possible in that there are no traces of her personally in it, but instead the style of the piece is what makes you think of her. Holzer doesn’t even use her own words in making these projects. She uses the words of other writers, who themselves create pieces by using words. She has blurred the line between art and writing.</p>
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		<title>By: barryjones</title>
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		<dc:creator>barryjones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 03:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sara

I agree, that any recognition given to the work itself in the space and time, would take away from the main focus of what she is trying to communicate.
The texts function as comments on that environment they fit into. If the text was decorative, a specific color, font, or a specific size, it would greatly change the meaning/emotion of a statement based on visual ascetics alone. The same would happen if Jenny Holzer were to sign her name on her work. It would make the statements more personal to the viewer whether the viewer knows who Jenny Holzer is or not. This isn’t what Holzer wants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sara</p>
<p>I agree, that any recognition given to the work itself in the space and time, would take away from the main focus of what she is trying to communicate.<br />
The texts function as comments on that environment they fit into. If the text was decorative, a specific color, font, or a specific size, it would greatly change the meaning/emotion of a statement based on visual ascetics alone. The same would happen if Jenny Holzer were to sign her name on her work. It would make the statements more personal to the viewer whether the viewer knows who Jenny Holzer is or not. This isn’t what Holzer wants.</p>
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